TEAM REPRESENTATIVES: Laurent MEKIES (RB), Mike KRACK (Aston Martin), James VOWLES (Williams), Zak BROWN (McLaren)
Q: I would like to start out, if I can, with one of many largest information tales of the week. It’s the departure of Adrian Newey from Pink Bull Racing. I would wish to get every of your views on that. Zak, maybe we might begin with you. Are you shocked that Adrian is leaving Pink Bull and are you curious about hiring him at McLaren?
Zak BROWN: Appears like all the identical questions the drivers acquired. Am I shocked? Six months in the past, I’d have been shocked. I feel given every little thing that is gone on for the reason that begin of the yr and realizing Adrian fairly nicely, and he is a really high-integrity particular person, I am not shocked he is shifting on. The stuff that is happening there’s a bit destabilising. It is most likely the primary domino to fall. My guess shouldn’t be the final based mostly on the resumes which might be flying round. And so far as McLaren’s involved, I am very proud of all of the work the women and men at McLaren are doing. I feel we have began to indicate since final yr, second half of final yr, that they know learn how to put efficiency on the automobile. So I’ve acquired all the religion on the earth with the staff that now we have. We’re on a quest to get again to the entrance, and I feel now we have the folks, the expertise, the gear, the drivers to get there, so we’ll simply keep the course.
Q: OK, thanks. James, coming to you now. You have confirmed that you’ve got already spoken to Adrian. What can Williams provide him that different groups cannot?
James VOWLES: I imply, it was a lightweight dialog greater than the rest, saying it might’t have been a simple determination and basically wanting simply to have an extra chat about issues. However from a Williams perspective, clearly, that is the place Adrian actually minimize his tooth for the primary time. And I feel we’re a staff with out politics. It is a small staff that is attempting to make our means again to the entrance. And I feel it might match very completely for somebody that desires to doubtlessly dig right into a problem like that. Greater than that, I imply, what’s nice about Williams is that it has retained the household really feel to it. We’re not pushed by an OEM. We’re pushed by only a group of people that wish to be there. And it is all about actually racing. And hopefully a few of that performs to his strengths. After which lastly with Adrian, you’ve got somebody along with his accolades, along with his contact. There’s not a staff he hasn’t been to – and that features McLaren, ourselves, Pink Bull – the place he hasn’t made a major distinction. And I feel anybody right here can be silly to not at the least open some dialog with him at that stage.
Q: OK, thanks for that. Mike, how significantly are Aston Martin pursuing Adrian?
Mike KRACK: I feel I stated it already, I’ve probably not a lot so as to add and in addition I echo what the blokes have already stated. I feel the document and the historical past speaks for itself. If somebody like that’s leaving a staff, it is at all times inflicting say the turmoil that it’s creating. I feel we talk about nothing else in regards to the final two weeks within the media, which is nice, as a result of we talk about System 1. However then, yeah, I already confirmed a few weeks in the past. I feel it was a transparent reply, however no person actually took it significantly. So, we’re fairly proud of our technical staff and we proceed with them.
Q: So you are not pursuing Adrian Newey?
MK: I stated already that I’ve answered this query greater than as soon as.
Q: Laurent, coming to you, how huge a loss is that this for the Pink Bull household?
Laurent MEKIES: Nicely, you already know, for positive it is an enormous loss for Pink Bull Racing. It’s not affecting our mission, clearly, that a part of the automobile being fully unbiased. However, you already know, I feel will probably be a loss for any staff shedding any individual of the calibre of Adrian. I feel the blokes have stated every little thing, you already know, the data communicate for themselves. So, for positive, it isn’t going to be unnoticed.
Q: He is being linked to Ferrari. While you have been at Ferrari, was he ever a dialogue level about becoming a member of the staff?
LM: , I feel everybody was sincere sufficient to say that each staff had or has Adrian on his record. So, after all, I feel all of us have been discussing with him and I am positive much more proper now that now the chance turns into a bit extra concrete.
Q: OK, only a couple extra questions from me. Laurent, if we stick with you, can we begin by speaking about Daniel Ricciardo? First up, can we get your tackle the incident between him and Lance Stroll on the final race in China?
LM: , for us, China… Daniel, above all, it was his strongest weekend to date. So, you already know, now we have been saying many occasions, he is progressing. You guys are going to see it. And actually, he was very sturdy from Friday onwards. So, after all, in case you are taken off the racetrack on the day of your strongest race, it is by no means going to be a pleasing second. We expect we have been combating for that well-known level that makes a lot distinction within the midfield. Then for the incident itself, as a lot as it’s disagreeable, it is the way in which racing is typically, and there may be nothing else to do than to maneuver on.
Q: And when it comes to his personal efficiency, you say it was his greatest to date. The place is he unlocking that potential?
LM: , now we have been working very onerous to verify he has a automobile he is snug to push with. And a few of it’s coming from him adapting to it. A few of it’s coming from us adapting the automobile to his wants. And a few of the stuff you are able to do very short-term, and now we have carried out fairly a number of steps. Another steps will come later within the season, to go within the course of giving him one thing he can push with. So he is on a superb trajectory. I feel now we have now each Daniel and Yuki at a really, very sturdy stage, and they’re going to preserve pushing one another like that for the remainder of the yr.
Q: OK, thanks, Laurent. Mike, coming again to you, can we speak in regards to the efficiency of your automobile? Fernando stated final day out that it’s stronger in qualifying than it’s within the race. Is that the way you see it? What are you able to do to enhance its race efficiency?
MK: Yeah, I can verify that. I feel once you have a look at the final races, we at all times certified a lot, a lot greater than we completed, which is good in a method, however not so good within the different, as a result of the purpose is for the races and never for qualifying, and sadly that is one thing that for the drivers it is fairly tough since you begin a race in a defensive mode, as a result of you already know in the event you go too onerous to assault then clearly you’ll spoil your tyres. That isn’t an amazing state of affairs to be in and we work actually onerous to get our race efficiency on a greater stage. We had a bit the alternative final yr, so there have been some classes discovered from there, however loads of effort goes into race efficiency for the time being.
Q: And in the event you’re Alonso, you threat the wrath of the stewards as nicely, as has occurred on the final two races?
MK: Yeah, that’s true. I feel it comes because of being defensive. , it’s a must to race actually onerous to defend in opposition to a faster automobile. And I feel it has been carried out very well to date as a result of we got here with extra factors than really our race efficiency deserves. So I feel that may be a huge achievement. However sadly, it means additionally at occasions that you’re within the Stewards’ room.
Q: Thanks. I am positive there will be extra questions for you later. James, coming to you now, can we begin by speaking in regards to the efficiency of your automobile? The messaging from Williams coming into Miami is that the circuit ought to go well with the FW46 higher. Is that what you noticed throughout FP1?
JV: I feel on Dash race weekends there are a selection of various gas masses run. Basic weekends, we type of preserve to an analogous sample. So you’ll be able to roughly predict the place you might be. However this weekend, the variation could possibly be 20, 30 kilos between groups, which is greater than the gaps between us for the time being, between actually, ourselves and our RB Visa Money App, it is a tenth and you may’t inform that on the gas stage. So there’s some traits of the circuit that ought to go well with us higher. However in fact, now we have to type of step again within the season and go, we have not carried out a ok job to date. What we have got to do going ahead is ensure that we begin including efficiency to the automobile at the next charge than all of these in entrance of us and combat again into that place the place we could be commonly scoring factors.
Q: Going ahead, can we speak about drivers as nicely? Kimi Antonelli is being closely linked to Williams. He is been testing for Mercedes. Can we begin by simply getting your ideas on the job that he is carried out in these checks for Mercedes?
JV: My info supply is journalism for that. So I haven’t got any direct communication with Mercedes on how he is doing within the checks. I simply perceive that he has been testing in Imola and I feel he additionally did Austria on the similar time. So for that one, every little thing I learn is what you learn, which so far as I can inform, it is good. However you’ll be able to’t actually evaluate in that state of affairs. It is older automobiles. I am unsure if it is a ‘21 or a ‘22 automobile. And there is nothing actually to reference it to.
Q: He is being linked to Williams. Quite a lot of sources saying that there’s a want to see him in considered one of your automobiles earlier than the top of this season. That true?
JV: I am positive there is a want, however I will offer you my perspective on it. We’ve got far larger issues to resolve than drivers for the time being. Alex has carried out championship-level drives and for the time being he is not scoring factors and basically now we have it on us to enhance our automobile going ahead. That is my main concern greater than the rest and what we do with drivers going into ’25, ‘26. All of us right here… Not really Zak, he did a very good job early on within the season. However loads of us right here, and Mike’s carried out his now, are simply checking out the place we’ll be for subsequent yr basically. And of that, there are alternatives on the desk, however it’s far too early to inform. Within the sense of Kimi, it’s a must to bear in mind it is simply 20 months in the past he was in a System 4 automobile. That is a big, massive step up right into a System 1 automobile in such a brief area of time.
Q: OK, thanks. I will go away it there. Zak, thanks for ready. Can we speak in regards to the upgrades that you simply’re operating this weekend? What’s being stated by Lando specifically throughout FP1?
ZB: Yeah, Lando has a full set of upgrades. Oscar’s on improve gentle, if you wish to name it that. He does not have the total set of upgrades, however does have upgrades on his automobile. Up to now, it appears to be like good. We had somewhat little bit of a problem, unrelated to the upgrades on Lando, that took somewhat little bit of observe time from him at first of the session, nevertheless it appears to be like OK. I feel these Dash weekends, Free Apply 1, you’ve acquired to get quite a bit achieved whereas attempting to study your upgrades. So Dash weekends are somewhat bit harder to introduce upgrades on, however we took the choice to sort of cut up them so we will be taught somewhat bit extra. Oscar can have the total set in Imola. However to date, so good.
Q: What would you like from these upgrades? Is that this going to place you on par?
ZB: Lap time. Come on, you’ve got been round racing!
Q: Is that this going to place you on a par with Pink Bull?
ZB: I feel that will be a stretch. Our hopes are that it will get us nearer to Pink Bull.
QUESTIONS FROM THE FLOOR
Q: (Scott Mitchell-Malm – The Race) A query for James. You answered Tom’s query about Kimi, and also you talked about the motive force state of affairs for past this season, however particularly on the hypothesis that he could possibly be within the automobile in some unspecified time in the future this yr. Has there been any dialog about that? Is there any risk of Logan being changed earlier than the top of this season?
JV: Let’s put it this fashion. I have not spoken to Kimi since Abu Dhabi final yr. Hopefully that places it in context. I do know nothing about what is going on on at Mercedes’ checks proper now. We’re wanting, as everybody else is, for the place we wish to be on driver line-up for subsequent yr and now we have our personal younger driver programme. Within the case of Kimi, I can not actually adjudicate on the extent he is at. In case of him coming into the automobile this yr, I’ve at all times stated from the start, it is a meritocracy. Logan has to earn his seat. And for the time being, he has some robust targets the place he has to get a lot nearer to Alex. However there may be nothing on the radar for the time being for changing him.
Q: (Sahil Kapoor – NBC) A query for all 4 of you. Can I please get your response to Mario Andretti going to Washington this week the place 12 members of Congress wrote a letter accusing FOM and by extension a few of the groups of anti-competitive behaviour? One member even used the phrase cartel-like behaviour. What’s your response and is that this serving to his explanation for getting Andretti on the grid?
ZB: I noticed it. I did not observe it that intently. I feel we have all been on planes getting right here whereas it is occurred. I feel System 1 and the FIA have each taken their positions and they aren’t altering. So I feel we’ll simply have to attend and see. And as I feel all of the groups have stated, we do not have a vote in that matter.
JV: I am not overly conversant in the US judicial system. What I can state is there was a due course and course of accomplished by the FIA and FOM. And as Zak says, we do not have a say in any of that. So any greater than that, I can merely learn, like everybody else, on-line.
MK: Yeah, precisely as James and Zak have been saying, we’re actually passengers on this. We learn additionally from the information and the web, in between the Newey tales, so I can’t actually add something extra.
LM: Similar right here. , what issues is that there’s a sturdy course of in place with the FIA, with F1. We belief them. They’ve all the weather to make the proper name. And subsequently, we’re merely rigorously taking a look at what they’re deciding.
Q: (Giles Richards – The Guardian) A query for all 4 of you. Firstly, might you all simply assess what kind of influence you suppose shedding somebody of Adrian’s stature would have on a staff? And secondly, for Zach particularly, you talked about dominoes and resumes flying about. Are you able to simply broaden on that, what you imply? Are you being approached by folks at Pink Bull for jobs, et cetera?
ZB: Yeah, we have seen a rise in CVs coming our means from the staff. And I feel Adrian is probably the most profitable designer of all time. So along with the technical that he brings to the racing staff, folks wish to work for folks like Adrian Newey and work alongside him. So I feel they are going to be lacking what he brings to the staff from a pure technical perspective. After which I feel the management and the joy folks get from working with him might be missed.
JV: I imply, nearly phrase for phrase what I used to be going to say. He is an unimaginable character that has large accolades behind him within the sport, well-known for being the most effective designer actually in his subject. And that can have an effect, there is no doubt about it. How a lot he was concerned in Pink Bull or not, I could not say. We’re not buried inside there. However what I can say is it is going to have an effect. After all it is going to, somebody of his character and his energy.
MK: Yeah, once more, similar. If somebody of that abilities and expertise and qualities is leaving a staff, it has an influence. However, there might be others. There are at all times alternatives as nicely for different folks. It is a staff sport as of late. It is very, very massive groups that work collectively. To say far more, it’s a must to be within the staff, actually, as a result of every staff can be somewhat bit otherwise structured, otherwise working, so to actually say what influence it is going to have, it will be a pure guess.
Q: Mike, have you ever seen a rise within the variety of CVs from Pink Bull workers, as McLaren has?
MK: No.
Q: Laurent, please?
LM: We’ve got to be very cautious with the CVs coming from Pink Bull, in any other case Zak is getting upset. So we have not seen the rise of CVs coming. However no, significantly, after all it may make a distinction in any staff if an individual of the calibre of Adrian is leaving. It is altering, after all, the inner dynamics. It is going to change. Additionally, as you stated, you already know, additionally from a management perspective, it is a new steadiness, I am positive, to be discovered. And will probably be the identical for any staff in that state of affairs.
Q: (Graham Harris – Motorsport Monday) One thing you might be concerned in, gents, the factors for positions. For the time being it pays 1 to 10. There’s been discussions not too long ago about 1 to 12 and probably additionally bringing the distinction between 1st, 2nd and third little nearer. I’d like your views on whether or not you suppose it is a optimistic transfer and whether or not you suppose there ought to be fiddling happening with the factors for subsequent yr or simply go away it as it’s?
LM: Look, we predict it is a good suggestion to extend the factors distribution, primarily as a result of there isn’t any again markers anymore. We’ve got 10 very sturdy groups. This yr is an effective instance. We’ve got a incredible combat additionally within the second a part of the grid, 10 automobiles combating inside one tenth, two tenths. And, you already know, our pole place is P11 at present. Our win is P11. If nothing occurred on the entrance, and the reliability of the blokes on the entrance has been… extraordinary. So we predict it is a incredible combat. We wish to clarify it to the followers. We wish to clarify it to our companions and we predict that factors will assist to provide worth to that P11, which in the present day for us is a victory. So for positive we’re supportive of an extension of the purpose system. Then know whether or not you go to P12, to P14, to no matter, we will focus on, however I feel the place the extent of competitiveness of the groups is so excessive these days that the combat within the midfield, the combat on the again can even deserve some factors.
MK: Yeah, I agree. I feel the system must be checked out. We’ve got a brand new fan base additionally. We’re not anymore the purists that we have been for these a few years. So I feel it’s actually time to take a look at this. Personally, I feel there at all times must be one thing to combat for, wherever you might be. A bit like Laurent talked about, we should always clearly not be an excessive amount of influenced by how it’s this yr, as a result of subsequent yr could be completely different than the yr after. However I feel it was a superb consensus within the F1 Fee to say we wish to make an adjustment, however we should always not rush it, as a result of we do not wish to change it once more later. So I feel it is necessary that now we have a superb considered it, after which we focus on some completely different proposals subsequent time.
JV: Similar factor. I feel altering the factors is smart. Precisely that. There was simply questions over the place can we go? Is it P12, P14, P16? All automobiles, basically. By way of tuning it on the entrance, I feel my conclusion from that’s Verstappen gained by profitable probably the most races. It does not matter what you do. It will have nonetheless led to him profitable championships. That is only a energy that they’ve give you, the automobile and him, collectively as a package deal. However I feel there’s some smart… It was an excellent dialog on the F1 Fee round this the place the room was just about united in let’s do one thing that is good for the game. Nevertheless, let’s take our time to get it proper and do it as soon as.
ZB: Nothing to construct, apart from supportive and agree with every little thing the blokes stated. I feel rising that can simply create extra pleasure all through the entire subject. So we’re supportive of extra groups getting extra factors.
Q: How far again would you go is that?
ZB: I feel actually 12. I feel there could possibly be an argument made for all. That may clearly be fairly an overhaul. However I feel as quickly as factors come into play, it makes each cross that rather more necessary. Typically automobiles will pull in, avoid wasting stuff on their automobile, put on and tear, as a result of they’re out of the factors. That may get rid of that. If a faster automobile will get shuffled to the again, each cross counts. So I feel there’s an argument you would make for the complete grid. Actually at least 12. However I feel as James talked about, we have to change it as soon as and that is what we agreed on the FIA Fee, let’s do a assessment and I feel all of the groups have been in the identical spot, that increasing the factors is an effective factor to do.
Q: (Luke Smith – The Athletic) Zak, a query for you. I do know you stated you are proud of the make-up of the McLaren technical division for the time being, however there is no denying that Adrian Newey can be additive to wherever he walked into. Is there curiosity in McLaren in bringing Adrian Newey to the staff?
ZB: Nicely, I feel you are proper. I imply, as everybody stated, with a resume and a observe document like Adrian Newey, Adrian’s going so as to add worth to any racing staff. However we’re very proud of the trajectory that we’re on. By no means say by no means. However I am very proud of the staff, the technical management, the way in which Andrea is operating the racing staff. And we have got a plan and we’ll preserve head down. And naturally, at all times search for alternatives to make additive additions to the racing staff.
Q: (Dan Lawrence – Motorsport Monday) This can be a query for all. F1 Academy is right here this weekend and there is a rising highlight on the feminine drivers, nevertheless it’s nonetheless a male-dominated sport. I simply puzzled whether or not you had any unsung feminine heroes in your staff that you simply needed to shed some highlight on now.
JV: Yeah, we had an inside expertise assessment only a few days in the past. So now we have Megan, who was an apprentice that has grown her means up right into a profitable function and ranked, I imply she’s going to search out out now by way of a press convention, however prime tier, basically. I’ve Chloe on the race staff who takes care of (inaudible) and different parts of issues. And sadly, in the event you look on TV, you may see inside our storage, I feel most likely on the higher finish anyway of content material in that regard. And I am lucky to be surrounded by an surroundings the place successfully it is rising, which is what it ought to be doing for the time being. It is an open surroundings the place we’re open-minded on its meritocracy, however convey the most effective folks in you’ll be able to, and no matter the place that comes from and who they’re. F1 Academy is a distinct merchandise altogether. What was encouraging is, once more, if I take the F1 Fee, we had a very good dialog about how can we significantly take this to a degree the place we’re bringing ladies up into System 1? As a result of there is a pathway, and it is awfully tough for the time being. And I feel out of the 4 hours we have been collectively, we put 20, half-hour to that, despite the fact that it is coping with a collection we do not immediately work with. So I feel the truth that that is going to that stage and we’re speaking about it’s simply how critical the world is taking it now and in an excellent means.
ZB: Yeah, quite a bit, beginning with my management staff. Laura, our CFO. I could not run the enterprise with out Laura, and she or he’s been with us for fairly a while. She is aware of quite a bit in regards to the racing staff, so actually helps all of us make the proper strategic funding selections. Chloe Todd, my Chief-of-Employees, additionally on management staff. I just about could not do my job with out her doing most of it for me. And Louise McEwen, who’s our CMO, I feel we’re recognised as among the best entrepreneurs in motorsports and fan engagement and all of that sits beneath Lou. We have simply introduced in Stephanie Carlin, who’s operating our Younger Driver program and serving to Andrea with enterprise operations, and the record goes on. So fairly proud to work alongside all of them, and we could not get our job carried out with out them and lots of extra, and I am very pleased the F1 Academy is simply persevering with to convey consideration to our sport that is going to create alternatives.
LM: Yeah, I agree with Zach. , I feel the F1 Academy is a incredible software, not just for bringing a lady to System 1, but additionally as a result of by way of the F1 Academy, you for positive improve the extent of embracement of girls typically to our sport. And that displays not solely to the purposes for turning into drivers, but additionally to get ladies typically extra concerned into our sport in any respect stage, in any respect sort of jobs, as Zach simply talked about.
MK: Yeah, similar. Clearly, now we have all of the groups supporting F1 Academy. We’ve got the liveries and that clearly additionally, I feel, reveals a stage of dedication. However then additionally, I feel, with out naming names now, going by way of the organisation, I feel we see change typically. We see increasingly women and girls in any respect ranges, be it in operations, manufacture, engineering, on the race staff. And I feel if we zoom or if we go along with the digicam by way of the pit lane, we see increasingly ladies being a part of the race staff, which is an effective factor.
Q: (Jenna Fryer – Related Press) For any of you, however undoubtedly, Zak. Three races within the US now. Vegas was an enormous spectacle. After we first got here to Miami in yr one, Miami was an enormous spectacle. I do know all three of the US races have their very own very particular person identification, however what does Miami now need to do to stay the particular spectacle it was, contemplating how a lot effort Las Vegas and what a present Las Vegas was?
ZB: I feel they only must preserve doing what they’re doing. Tom Garfinkel and Tyler are doing an superior job. I feel in between COTA, Austin, Miami, Vegas, Netflix, the soon-to-be Brad Pitt film, which after all might be world, I feel all these parts are serving to construct our sport in a short time in North America. After all, a brand new tv contract. When you have a look at the way in which Tom and Tyler responded after yr one, the enhancements they’ve made have been substantial and superb. They proceed to try this. So I do not see them sitting nonetheless. I feel Miami is an superior market that individuals wish to journey to. So I feel every considered one of these Grands Prix have their very own character. I feel that is one of many issues that is thrilling about System 1. So I feel they are not sitting nonetheless. They’re continuously creating like we’re our race automobiles. And I feel it is an superior occasion and going to go from energy to energy.
JV: Yeah, similar factor. I met up with Tom in the present day. When you evaluate the place we’re in the present day, three years in, from the place we have been originally, it is an infinite change. This was a parking lot. basically that they transformed right into a prime tier System 1 observe. Extra so, I type of charge issues by how the environment is on the grid. When you stand on the grid right here and the race weekend, It is acquired related repercussions to the place you might be at Silverstone or in any other case. You have got a fan base that’s fully in help of us as a collection. And that merely wasn’t the case three years in the past. And that is by way of onerous work and diligence by Tom and his staff right here. Once more, to Zak’s level, once you go to Vegas to right here to COTA, all three are fully completely different. There is not any actual similarities between all of them. And that is the beauty of it. Basically, they’re completely different spectacles. However I feel for all of us right here, Miami is now for companions, for evenings, for successfully bringing in outdoors curiosity into the game, prime tier, if not the most effective on the market.
Q: (Sahil Kapoor – NBC) Hames, might I please get you to elaborate a bit on Logan and the targets you’ve got set for him, if there’s something you’ll be able to share? And I consider you stated earlier that what he was doing final yr shouldn’t be match for function. Have you ever seen a step up from him this yr?
JV: Hopefully I did not say precisely these phrases, that will be very harsh of me. However what I used to be saying final yr was on the finish of the yr, he got here near Alex, which is what I needed him to do, however that development needed to proceed. He needed to be on the level the place he is not sitting a tenth behind him, however somewhat difficult him and out-qualifying him and out-racing him, basically. We’re nonetheless on that journey. What Logan has as a problem, basically, in entrance of him is gigantic. We will not underrate the place Alex is as a driver. He was, I feel, underrated earlier than and he is a superb, good driver in his personal entity. By way of Logan, what I have been asking for him is, regardless of the pressures of the world, the pressures we have created, the pressures I’ve created, the stress all of you’ve got created, it’s worthwhile to pull that every one and put it behind you and ensure you’re now on the market combating and out-qualifying Alex, pushing the staff ahead because of issues. And people targets successfully are encompassed in various different extra formal methods of placing it. No doubt, it is a robust subject. There is not any doubt about it. However as I stated during, it is meritocracy, earn your home. Now, he is acquired extra work to do, however he is additionally one of many prime 20 System 1 drivers on the earth on the grid. And there is a purpose for that. And right here in Miami at his dwelling Grand Prix, I am placing him on my shoulders and supporting him as a result of that is what we ought to be doing at this level. He is within the automobile. He’ll stay within the automobile. And my job right here is supporting him.